Lagavulin 12 Year Old bottled 2013 13th Release

@Nozinan There's a sample of another batch (2017?) waiting for you, the bottle has yet to be opened.

@Robert99 You know, perusing the other 2013 reviews, I think you and your bottle are directly responsble for 4 reviews on this site.

Many thanks...I would love to try to 2017. I had nothing to trade for it this year...

@Nozinan Your friendship is more than enough my friend.

@Robert99 I appreciate the sentiment, but I meant I wasn't gifted an expensive bottle that I could trade to the LCBO for a Lag 12 this year...

@Nozinan Next time you go to Calgary, buy a bottle for which the LCBO has the biggest mark up than you will be able to make a profitable trade. I once bought an Octomore for 128$ in Calgary that was 300$ at the SAQ. I should have bought a few, beginner's mistake.

@Robert99 That would still mean a significant outlay of cash and a lot of hassle, plus then possibly lying to LCBO. Much better when I receive the bottle as a gift, and then omit where I received it at the LCBO. Plus, the uncertainty adds to the adventure.

Does "possibly lying" here mean "definitely lying"?

@Nozinan, so you think the 2014 is the weakest of the bunch? Hmmmm.

The 2014 is the only one I've had. I liked it plenty, but I didn't think it was worth the price—and definitely not worth the new prices that have jumped up over the past few years. If that 2014 was on the "least exciting" end of the scale, though, maybe I'll have to reconsider that stance.

@MadSingleMalt If I bought the bottle outside of Ontario and was being asked why I was returning it to LCBO, what would I say? Kf I wasn't asked, obviously I wouldn't tell. So the potential is there for the need to say something that is not true, which to me is distasteful and to be avoided.

There is nothing untrue about saying you received something as a gift (if indeed you did), and omitting where that gift was purchased, because really, unless you saw the purchase made, how do I know it wasn't purchased in Ontario?

As to the 2014, of the 4 I have tried I would say it was my least favourite. Of course I did try it H2H with the 2011 which is one of my favourites.

Isn't it a lie to return it to that store to begin with, regardless of whether they ask?

@Nozinan I think in BC they can tell from the bar code if it was purchased in BC.

@MadSingleMalt If I go into the store, and say I got it as a gift (assuming that is the truth) and ask if I can trade for something else, what exactly is the lie? If their policy is that returns without a receipt are permitted as long as you trade for something same day, where is the rule being broken?

@BlueNote the UPC symbols are standard for current bottlings but may be different for older bottlings. There is no way to tell if a standard Fiddich 18 was purchased in Calgary or Toronto or what price was paid for it.

I thought the idea on the table was to bring in bottles bought elsewhere and "return" them at your expensive state store for top dollar?

@MadSingleMalt I think my comment was that I would not be purchasing any expensive whiskies at the prices ( $150+) charged by the LCBO unless I was trading something I had received as a gift.

Now, I do believe there was a time when you could get refunds for stuff without a receipt and people were buying cheap out of province and "returning" for cash at the KGBO, but that was before my time and I never got to benefit from that racket.

That's not what the comment above looks like to me, but OK.

Ya'll have my sympathies for having only that state store to buy from locally.

@Nozinan, I returned a bottle of the 2014. I did not know where it came from, it was a gift. With the proceeds from the credit transaction I purchased a 3 liter bottle of ...............Jack Daniels Tennessee Whiskey.

@paddockjudge I think I would have kept the Lag 12 over the JD.... or even better I could have turned it into 3 Legacy or 2.5 Dissertation.

@Nozinan, it was for a fund raiser. That $130 Jack 3 liter was transformed into $1200.

@paddockjudge Do you remember that old Genesis song, "I Know What I Like in Your Wardrobe"? I know what I like in your cabinet (pretty much everything).

@paddockjudge And yet, you still have it? Was it a raffle you donated it to then won?

@BlueNote His pictures are indeed fantastic...